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  The 24 Elders in Revelation are NOT the anointed......

  by EndofMysteries in

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  2. bible

  today i just thought of this.

  i had written a thread about the false teaching of the anointed being resurrected already.

  anyway, the wt assumes the 24 elders in revelation are the 144,000, and the assumption is merely because both sit on thrones.

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  Interesting discussion. I was just talking about this with my husband. We read the Book of Enoch, which mentions several detailed accounts of how archangel's interact with Jesus & humans. Mentioning several by name. We believe that the 24 elders are the archangels that serve Jesus and around the throne. That is why they are 'around' the throne.
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  Sickening Dilemma

  by ItsMyLife in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i would like to have your opinions on what i should do about a situation please.. i have recently discovered that a 'brother' in the congregation (which i no longer attend) is a child molester.

  i've seen documentation from his psychiatrist dated a few years ago, stating that he doesn't feel that this person is likely to offend again.

  the 'brother' has said to the elders at some point that he has it under control but cannot be 100% sure it won't happen again.

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  Call the POLICE . Pedophiles is one of the crimes that even psychiatrist recognize as un-rehabilitable [? i probably slaughtered that spelling]
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  First post / 1914 info

  by whichway2go in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my first post here after about 6 months of lurking.

  i will comment more and give some more info later, but i am still active, and looking for my way to exit.

  i had a question that i'm hoping someone can help with.

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  Also, forgot to add.... in those same articles Nov/2011 pg 24 the footnote right above the picture of clay tablets reads: "Business tablets exist for all the years traditionally attributed to the Neo-Babylonian kings. When the years that these kings ruled are totaled and a calculation is made back from the last Neo-Babylonian king, Nabonidus, the date reached for the destruction of Jerusalem is 587 B.C.E. HOWEVER [emphasis mine], this method of dating works ONLY [Emphasis mine again] if each king followed the other in the same year without any breaks in between.

  They basically admit that the business records only go to 587 B.C.E but we still won't change it.
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  First post / 1914 info

  by whichway2go in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my first post here after about 6 months of lurking.

  i will comment more and give some more info later, but i am still active, and looking for my way to exit.

  i had a question that i'm hoping someone can help with.

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  Warm Welcome WW2G to you and your family.

  I cannot find the book you're thinking of but they did 2 articles in the [Public] WT Oct/2011 pg 26-31 & Nov/2011 pg 22-28 they say the same thing.

  If you go to the Nov/2011 pg 23: the footnote right under 'Business tablets' actually says. " None of the secular experts quoted in this article hold that Jerusalem was destroyed in 607 B.C.E
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  What is the most out of line / disturbing experience you have seen from Circuit Overseers?

  by Poindexter Lionel Humperdique in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i once heard of a circuit overseer blaming a loyal ministerial servant, that served as the accounts servant, of steeling from the contribution boxes, simply because he deposited the congregation funds bi-weekly instead of twice a week.

  due to the accusation, the ms was immediately removed without hearing his side of the story.

  isn't this rather counter-intuitive and innefficient?

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  Pyramid Scheme- Your pompous ass sounds like ours, was his initials GF?
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  What is the most out of line / disturbing experience you have seen from Circuit Overseers?

  by Poindexter Lionel Humperdique in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i once heard of a circuit overseer blaming a loyal ministerial servant, that served as the accounts servant, of steeling from the contribution boxes, simply because he deposited the congregation funds bi-weekly instead of twice a week.

  due to the accusation, the ms was immediately removed without hearing his side of the story.

  isn't this rather counter-intuitive and innefficient?

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  We had one, that was so arrogant that during an Elder/MS meeting [my husband was a MS at the time] he started talking about a young couple that had started dating in our KH- Bro was 26, sister was only 17. CO disapproved and looked directly at the bro's father and said "We have to think about what we're allowing in our household and not be taken in BLONDE HAIR & BIG BOOBS" of course that family immediately wrote a letter to the WTS and was condemned for it. But the cong was so in love with this CO, that when they left after 3 yrs they gave them a HUGE party and actually sang 'For he's a jolly good fellow' to him and his wife.
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  New Member / MS still in...

  by Comatose in

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  2. friends

  feels real strange typing this.

  i was what you all call born in.

  i was happy growing up.

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  Newly Enlightened

  Welcome to all the new ones. Great to see so many questioning this cult and leaving!
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  Can't afford to pay Candace, but they can afford this:

  by WinstonSmith in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://thetandd.com/news/local/jehovah-s-witnesses-unveil-million-assembly-hall/article_82f68742-6776-11e2-a641-001a4bcf887a.html?comment_form=true.

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  Makes me nauseous.
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  yet another newbie..

  by ragnarok75 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been lurking here for some time and now that i've registered here's a little bit about myself... i'm in northern europe (so english is not my own language,but i have indeed studied it for more than 18 months) and i was born into this hateful cult in the "momentuous" year of -75.good that my parents stayed alive till then!.

  as far back as i can remember i had doubts both about the doctrines and the whole existence of god.however,i instinctively knew that these doubts are not to be mentioned.so i learned to be a fake at an early age.though having read many other stories here i realise how easy i got it.i now understand that we lived in a rather liberal area and also my family was quite liberal eventhough my dad was an elder since mid -80 and mom was really "strong in the truth".i never brought up the religion at school or with friends and was never bullied or anything.it helped that i was good at sports,especially football (soccer for americans) and football is also the source of my biggest hurt in childhood.i know it may sound very trivial,but the fact that i wasn't allowed to join a football team felt just so unjust and painfull and it lasted all through my childhood.whenever we had a new gym teacher,the first thing he asked me was which team do i play for.i was too embarrased to tell the truth and i just gave the impression that i only wanted to play for fun and not join any team.oh,how badly i wanted to!.

  somehow i managed to silence all those doubts and got babtised as a young man.very soon after the babtism i knew that it didn't have the hoped for effect of making me more spiritual and meetings and field service still felt an absolute bore.now began the long years of just "going through the motions".all my family (parents,many brothers and sisters,uncles and aunts,nieces and nephews) and most of my friends were in.i never reached out and attended only one or two meetings a week and penned my hours.i kind of liked my congregation (also,the seats at our kh were really comfy,so i often slept through the meetings) and made some very good friends.friends that - as you all can guess- didn't turn out to be so good in the end,but with whom i nonetheless had some good times and felt a strong connection to.. for a long time nothing happened that would've disrupted my rather non-eventfull life as a lacklustre jdub with at least another foot in the "world".i'd done many things that would've gotten me d'fed,but i never had any intentions of going to the elders about it and i had no pangs of conscience about it either.it was just a matter of convenience..i liked my witness friends,wanted to hold on to them and not to lose my family.. however..there was this girl... a (worldly,of course) girl that i had absolutely fell for and had a brief romance with many years ago.now she was back in my life.i must omit the proceeding turns of events for the sake of anonymity,but the end result is that i'm a proud father of a lovely baby girl.well,not so much baby anymore as she starts school soon.i love her so much and it gives me great satisfaction that she is growing free from any influence of vicious cults or of any gods for that matter.we live now in different countries but i see her often and there's always skype.. her birth also acted as a catalyst for the change in relationship between me and the society.i decided that i wanted to share the joy of her birth and existence with my family,eventhough i also knew that that would mean i'd have to go the elders too.if i didn't,they would,and that would result in automatic disfellowshippping.. a jc was duly formed and i had decided that i'm not going to go there and tell them that i regret her,as having her is the best thing that's ever happeded to me.

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  Newly Enlightened

  Welcome, I LOVe seeing all the Newbies to this site.
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  What's you BIGGEST pet peeve/disagreement with the WT or GB?!?

  by TeenageInsider in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for me its the district conventions.

  not bragging in anyway, but i was born-into a family of 'higher ups' im talking co's and zo's..... and there is a room that they set up in the conventions/stadiums called the "chairmans office".

  i always have access to these rooms, because im usually with one of my higher up family members who give talks and all that other crap.. anyways, while everyone in the convention is sitting in the sun, eating a slimy, soggy bolognia sandwich, the chairmans office is air conditioned, has a variety of chilled beverages, 'coke, pepsi, diet coke, gatorade, dasani water bottles,' not to mention the 'danishes, sandwich triangles, cookies, cakes, muffins, fresh coffee, and for lunch, pizza, salads, pastas, and lasagna'.

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  Newly Enlightened

  All the lies, wrong prophecies, RUINING my life [[I'm from the 1975 generation] When I was 12 in early 70's, my teeth were so crooked that the dentist told my parents that something needed to be done, like braces. 'Honey if you can just wait a couple more years, the new system is right here.' So I'm 49 now with crooked painful teeth and because of no education, no money, no insurance nothing can be done. now my mother and other family members are shunning me just because I dared to ask where Jesus was in the picture from the 4/15/2013 WT study edition.

  Sorry I don't mean to rant & rave but it's a touchy subject lately. My daughter & son-in-law got 'fixed' so that they couldn't have any kids.